It has always amazed me about how many people go to online Rainbow groups and the only thing they ask is where the gathering is going to be? They could care less about even being a part of the groups or even fucking reading anything already posted because they are too damn lazy to do it for themselves and want others to do it for them. Typical Rainbow... it does not matter that there are dozens upon dozens of posts of the same thing being asked everyday AND ALREADY FUCKING ANSWERED!
It gets even worse with the non stop bombardment of people getting pissed because scouts/focalizers won't give out any information until the last minute announcing seed camp!Well let's see why this is?
In my 30 years of being involved (or trying to be involved) with Rainbow gatherings it has always been known that...
1. There is a camping limit of 14 days in most National Forests. We have always tried to respect that regardless of not signing permits and being there. You are only adding more complications before the gathering can even start by being there early.
2. There is no seed camp to create what organizations of our non organization... of things needed to be there to accommodate people for a gathering. No seed camp. No kitchen. No water. No shitters. No camps. No trails. No parking. And alot of other things.
In my 30 years of being involved (or trying to be involved) with Rainbow gatherings it has always been known that...
1. There is a camping limit of 14 days in most National Forests. We have always tried to respect that regardless of not signing permits and being there. You are only adding more complications before the gathering can even start by being there early.
2. There is no seed camp to create what organizations of our non organization... of things needed to be there to accommodate people for a gathering. No seed camp. No kitchen. No water. No shitters. No camps. No trails. No parking. And alot of other things.
The seed camp is there solely for that reason. The people that usually do come to seed camp come for a reason. To seed everything for a great gathering to grow and happen. And these same people actually (well mostly) know what the fuck they are doing and it is indeed a lot of work and tedious manual labor that the average Rainbow could care less about helping with.
3. There are no PROPER shitters! People show up early to wait and dig shitters where they should not be dug which creates more clean up work. Or you find the hidden shit piles with toilet paper strewn everywhere by people who literally don't give a shit. After all... Rainbow seem to have a philosophy of if no one sees them do something then "they didn't do it" and are not responsible for whatever they did knowing that someone else will come along and have to clean it up for them.
No offense but sisters are notorious for trampling vegetation when there are no shitters! They seem to always never want to use an already trampled spot to cop a squat. They trample a new spot so no one sees them pee. Guys seem to go where they want. When people piss everywhere and in the same spot... it can be totally noticed even in the woods.
4. There is no designated parking! People show up early and park where ever they want. Often it is in places they shouldn't where they damage the environment. Sometimes really bad. Once again they know someone will come along that will have to repair and fix the damage. More manual labor, time, and effort mostly left for clean up crews. The people that cause such damage could care less when they leave.
5. There are no proper designated main trails! People just come and trample the vegetation and environment without care or concern... yet again leaving a mess and extensive damage that takes more time, effort, and physical labor. This can be pretty bad in certain sensitive areas that would be marked off once seed camp started. Some areas may never fully recover properly from such abuse.
The national last year in Colorado was a prime example of this. There was a large sensitive area around two sides of main parking that people made a trail through and kept trampling off the trail to take a piss in it or park in it. Pretty surprised that seed camp did not catch that but Forest Service came in with dozens of workers quickly to post it and mark it off before it got too bad. Having those workers brought in just added more fuel to the fire to be used against us because of costs and damages which the Feds, the public, and locals closely watch!
6. There are no kitchen's! There is no food. Your mommy and daddy Rainbows are not there to feed your asses. So many fucking people show up with absolutely nothing always expecting others to feed them. It creates such a negative energy all around. People that do have food are expected to share and when they don't people become idiots. Or if they do share what they brought then they themselves run out of food which makes people have to unnecessarily come back and forth out of the site drawing attention.
7. The people that show up with nothing end up in one of the assorted local towns which are often quite small. They go there to do "bum shit" or "jug" or "spange" the locals. They often shoplift. They loiter. They leave the trash from any food they do get everywhere. Then they head back to camp with a bag of chips, a case of beer, and a pack of smokes when they could have bought food... which causes a vicious and constant cycle of them returning to these towns non stop. And most Rainbow have no problem harrassing and intimidating locals trying to get money out of them...
This only creates quite the heat score on everyone at the site, in the towns, for the people coming in, and just the gatherings in general. Not to mention it makes things worse on what the locals and public think about Rainbow and what it really is.
8. There is no designated water that gets properly set up and laid out in support of the gathering. This means people fuck up the environment around the water sources that are there. The same sources that are supposed to provide clean/uncontaminated water for the people at the gatherings. Rehabilitation of water sources and the areas around them can sometimes be the hardest to get done in a timely manner and may never be the same from the damage. More wasted time, effort, and manual labor...
9. LEO become quite annoyed and it sets and determines just how they might choose to interact with us. Even the kindest LEO can get fed up and have had enough! And when that happens it usually does not end up well for people in general. More LEO interactions. More problems being discovered and dealt with. More tickets and fines. More intentional harrassment. And they seem to think they need to bring in even more LEO.... not to mention more pissed off locals!
There are more places to go and wait out the start of gathering!
This year's Vermont regional gathering IS a prime example of all of this. A PERFECT EXAMPLE of why the site is announced at the last minute...
The infighting between the people around the New England area is intense and they don't agree on anything! There used to be only NERF but now there are multiple different groups who choose to not work together and ignore each other.
We have solid family folk here in Vermont that are trying to do this gathering properly. Everything from seed camp to cleanup. Vermont has been my home state for at least 15 years now. Vermont is known for having extremely amazing gatherings.
This year though... is already starting off bad and seems different. I just got back. A 3300 mile drive with two five hour naps. When I went looking for info online I found bickering and chaos!
The folks here in Vermont... trying to do this properly are being overwhelmed by people online who are not in Vermont that are trying to dictate and control how and where this gathering happens. They could care less about Vermont, it's family, and a lot more.
We got stupid fucking idiots elsewhere, who only want attention that they seem to crave, by trying to focalize the Vermont gathering from afar and by what they have heard or think... and for what? To boost their high holy egos and earn some brownie points within the Rainbow Heirarchy? To be able to fucking pat themselves on their backs and be able to boast to anyone and everyone for the rest of their lives about just how "Rainbow" they truly are and how they focalized a Vermont regional gathering?
These fuckers have created the perfect shit show before the gathering!
When they could not get their way and when the Vermont family folk disagreed with what they want... They went online and spammed every single Rainbow group with directions to the site... TEN FUCKING DAYS BEFORE SEED CAMP EVEN STARTS!!! They did this KNOWING the chaos it was and would cause that could not be taken back!
It reminds me of what the local scout/focalizer, Rabbit, at this year's Oregon regional told me... "I don't give a fuck if this spot is under a no camping rehabilitation this year. I picked this site and put out directions. They can't prevent people from coming now anyways! Fuck what LEO and the locals say or think. I'm in charge and this is where I chose! Fuck em!"
Way to go Oregon!
That was actually one of the most negative energy feeling gatherings I have been to. Had to leave to control the violent side of me because of Rabbit yelling with spit flying in my face over his hi holy ego temper tantrum.
These people are a perfect example what the Rainbow Heirarchy and leadership has become!
They, by no means, are NOT helping Rainbow and the gathering... they are only harming it and future gatherings by their attention seeking actions!!!
It is losers like them that are responsible for the current destruction of Rainbow that is currently happening.
Having found out that the directions to the Vermont site were given out already... I went to the site to see if anyone was there. Me and Love Dawg usually stay in the GMNF up off FR39 because of the short trip to Middlebury or in the southern part of the forest between the B towns... properly and legally of course.
When I got to the site there are indeed people and vehicles already there waiting for the gathering and creating a heat score blowing up the spot. Newbies from the National waiting on the party with their beer.
Very little food if any. No tobbaco or pot. No money yet conviently leaving and coming back with cases of beer! Didn't take less than ten minutes before I'm being hit up for stuff. After giving up tobbaco a few times and then saying no more... I guess I'm a bad guy now cause I got a full can of Spirit and said no when asked the third time.
Already doing bum shit in town...
What got to me the most though was the way they are hooting and hollering and waving at anyone that drives by... asking them if they are here for the gathering creating a heat score and seemingly wanting attention. LOOK AT ME I AM RAINBOW!
Yeah... this is going to be a great gathering!
I truly think it is time for the Vermont Rainbow folk family to take back Vermont from the idiots trying to control it's gatherings and form our own online group! I hope someone wants to and will do it... the whole fucking shebang!
FAITHFUL potlucks!
Faithful drum circles/trade circles/get togethers! Don't fucking bitch about the snow or winters... The Mt Shasta family hold weekly circles all winter long in the park and this year they got more snow than I have ever seen in Vermont and made it work! IF YOU ARE DEDICATED YOU ARE TRULY DEDICATED!
We need to focalize as a committed community TOGETHER to make future Vermont gatherings happen AND HAPPEN PROPERLY!
NOT FUCKING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE STATE WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT US, OUR WISHES, AND OUR COMMUNITY!!!
IT SHOULD BE VERMONSTER'S DECISIONS ON WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW THE FUTURE VERMONT RAINBOW GATHERINGS COME ABOUT!
MADE IN FUCKING VERMONT GATHERINGS!
MY PSA IS NOW OVER...
3. There are no PROPER shitters! People show up early to wait and dig shitters where they should not be dug which creates more clean up work. Or you find the hidden shit piles with toilet paper strewn everywhere by people who literally don't give a shit. After all... Rainbow seem to have a philosophy of if no one sees them do something then "they didn't do it" and are not responsible for whatever they did knowing that someone else will come along and have to clean it up for them.
No offense but sisters are notorious for trampling vegetation when there are no shitters! They seem to always never want to use an already trampled spot to cop a squat. They trample a new spot so no one sees them pee. Guys seem to go where they want. When people piss everywhere and in the same spot... it can be totally noticed even in the woods.
4. There is no designated parking! People show up early and park where ever they want. Often it is in places they shouldn't where they damage the environment. Sometimes really bad. Once again they know someone will come along that will have to repair and fix the damage. More manual labor, time, and effort mostly left for clean up crews. The people that cause such damage could care less when they leave.
5. There are no proper designated main trails! People just come and trample the vegetation and environment without care or concern... yet again leaving a mess and extensive damage that takes more time, effort, and physical labor. This can be pretty bad in certain sensitive areas that would be marked off once seed camp started. Some areas may never fully recover properly from such abuse.
The national last year in Colorado was a prime example of this. There was a large sensitive area around two sides of main parking that people made a trail through and kept trampling off the trail to take a piss in it or park in it. Pretty surprised that seed camp did not catch that but Forest Service came in with dozens of workers quickly to post it and mark it off before it got too bad. Having those workers brought in just added more fuel to the fire to be used against us because of costs and damages which the Feds, the public, and locals closely watch!
6. There are no kitchen's! There is no food. Your mommy and daddy Rainbows are not there to feed your asses. So many fucking people show up with absolutely nothing always expecting others to feed them. It creates such a negative energy all around. People that do have food are expected to share and when they don't people become idiots. Or if they do share what they brought then they themselves run out of food which makes people have to unnecessarily come back and forth out of the site drawing attention.
7. The people that show up with nothing end up in one of the assorted local towns which are often quite small. They go there to do "bum shit" or "jug" or "spange" the locals. They often shoplift. They loiter. They leave the trash from any food they do get everywhere. Then they head back to camp with a bag of chips, a case of beer, and a pack of smokes when they could have bought food... which causes a vicious and constant cycle of them returning to these towns non stop. And most Rainbow have no problem harrassing and intimidating locals trying to get money out of them...
This only creates quite the heat score on everyone at the site, in the towns, for the people coming in, and just the gatherings in general. Not to mention it makes things worse on what the locals and public think about Rainbow and what it really is.
8. There is no designated water that gets properly set up and laid out in support of the gathering. This means people fuck up the environment around the water sources that are there. The same sources that are supposed to provide clean/uncontaminated water for the people at the gatherings. Rehabilitation of water sources and the areas around them can sometimes be the hardest to get done in a timely manner and may never be the same from the damage. More wasted time, effort, and manual labor...
9. LEO become quite annoyed and it sets and determines just how they might choose to interact with us. Even the kindest LEO can get fed up and have had enough! And when that happens it usually does not end up well for people in general. More LEO interactions. More problems being discovered and dealt with. More tickets and fines. More intentional harrassment. And they seem to think they need to bring in even more LEO.... not to mention more pissed off locals!
There are more places to go and wait out the start of gathering!
This year's Vermont regional gathering IS a prime example of all of this. A PERFECT EXAMPLE of why the site is announced at the last minute...
The infighting between the people around the New England area is intense and they don't agree on anything! There used to be only NERF but now there are multiple different groups who choose to not work together and ignore each other.
We have solid family folk here in Vermont that are trying to do this gathering properly. Everything from seed camp to cleanup. Vermont has been my home state for at least 15 years now. Vermont is known for having extremely amazing gatherings.
This year though... is already starting off bad and seems different. I just got back. A 3300 mile drive with two five hour naps. When I went looking for info online I found bickering and chaos!
The folks here in Vermont... trying to do this properly are being overwhelmed by people online who are not in Vermont that are trying to dictate and control how and where this gathering happens. They could care less about Vermont, it's family, and a lot more.
We got stupid fucking idiots elsewhere, who only want attention that they seem to crave, by trying to focalize the Vermont gathering from afar and by what they have heard or think... and for what? To boost their high holy egos and earn some brownie points within the Rainbow Heirarchy? To be able to fucking pat themselves on their backs and be able to boast to anyone and everyone for the rest of their lives about just how "Rainbow" they truly are and how they focalized a Vermont regional gathering?
These fuckers have created the perfect shit show before the gathering!
When they could not get their way and when the Vermont family folk disagreed with what they want... They went online and spammed every single Rainbow group with directions to the site... TEN FUCKING DAYS BEFORE SEED CAMP EVEN STARTS!!! They did this KNOWING the chaos it was and would cause that could not be taken back!
It reminds me of what the local scout/focalizer, Rabbit, at this year's Oregon regional told me... "I don't give a fuck if this spot is under a no camping rehabilitation this year. I picked this site and put out directions. They can't prevent people from coming now anyways! Fuck what LEO and the locals say or think. I'm in charge and this is where I chose! Fuck em!"
Way to go Oregon!
That was actually one of the most negative energy feeling gatherings I have been to. Had to leave to control the violent side of me because of Rabbit yelling with spit flying in my face over his hi holy ego temper tantrum.
These people are a perfect example what the Rainbow Heirarchy and leadership has become!
They, by no means, are NOT helping Rainbow and the gathering... they are only harming it and future gatherings by their attention seeking actions!!!
It is losers like them that are responsible for the current destruction of Rainbow that is currently happening.
Having found out that the directions to the Vermont site were given out already... I went to the site to see if anyone was there. Me and Love Dawg usually stay in the GMNF up off FR39 because of the short trip to Middlebury or in the southern part of the forest between the B towns... properly and legally of course.
When I got to the site there are indeed people and vehicles already there waiting for the gathering and creating a heat score blowing up the spot. Newbies from the National waiting on the party with their beer.
Very little food if any. No tobbaco or pot. No money yet conviently leaving and coming back with cases of beer! Didn't take less than ten minutes before I'm being hit up for stuff. After giving up tobbaco a few times and then saying no more... I guess I'm a bad guy now cause I got a full can of Spirit and said no when asked the third time.
Already doing bum shit in town...
What got to me the most though was the way they are hooting and hollering and waving at anyone that drives by... asking them if they are here for the gathering creating a heat score and seemingly wanting attention. LOOK AT ME I AM RAINBOW!
Yeah... this is going to be a great gathering!
I truly think it is time for the Vermont Rainbow folk family to take back Vermont from the idiots trying to control it's gatherings and form our own online group! I hope someone wants to and will do it... the whole fucking shebang!
FAITHFUL potlucks!
Faithful drum circles/trade circles/get togethers! Don't fucking bitch about the snow or winters... The Mt Shasta family hold weekly circles all winter long in the park and this year they got more snow than I have ever seen in Vermont and made it work! IF YOU ARE DEDICATED YOU ARE TRULY DEDICATED!
We need to focalize as a committed community TOGETHER to make future Vermont gatherings happen AND HAPPEN PROPERLY!
NOT FUCKING PEOPLE FROM OUT OF THE STATE WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT US, OUR WISHES, AND OUR COMMUNITY!!!
IT SHOULD BE VERMONSTER'S DECISIONS ON WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW THE FUTURE VERMONT RAINBOW GATHERINGS COME ABOUT!
MADE IN FUCKING VERMONT GATHERINGS!
MY PSA IS NOW OVER...
