Here is Janie Frames's account of what happened. We wish her family the best through the awkward and difficult times.
I am kind of at odds over the whole situation.
I do not know what to think about all of the people that were involved in this assault.
I am sure we will find out soon.
I also do not know what I think about a man going to the gathering with a powerful rifle, pulling it on a group of people as an intimidation, and others not finding it offensive!
Reminds me of a post, last year, about how shitty Shawnee is!!!
->here<- and ->here<-
Ironically it is written by a person who felt they were GANG STALKED!
WELCOME TO RAINBOW GATHERINGS 2.0... A NEW beginning!!!
Reminds me of a post, last year, about how shitty Shawnee is!!!
->here<- and ->here<-
Ironically it is written by a person who felt they were GANG STALKED!
WELCOME TO RAINBOW GATHERINGS 2.0... A NEW beginning!!!
hello family :)
my name is janie frame, i am requesting a copy of the guide or any
numbers which i can reach family for the purpose of organizing a
council. i am organizing this council because i am the daughter and
witness of the man shot by a-camp at the shawnee ntl forest. I need
contact info as soon as you can manage. Here is my story i posted on
facebook and hopefully some forums soon explaining the truth about
what happened, and it is horrible. also i have pictures on my
facebook, if you can help me in any way to get ahold of as mjuch
family as possible i appreciate it so much.
To all my rainbow family -
If you didnt hear about the shooting at the Shawnee gathering on
October 9th, 3:45 AM. My names janie my dad was the one shot, and i
was there for the whole thing. copy and paste this wherever you want
this is the true story straight up not from a-camp.
We had a little camper in bus village and a little fire outside where
people were hanging out drinking, we went to bed and let the fire
burn so people could still hang out, at about 3:30 they were really
loud and we went outside and asked them to be quieter and they said
"well be gone in a minute" we went to bed they woke us up again so we
asked them this time to please leave and they told us to go "get a
fucking hotel room" so I got my water jug and poured it on the fire
and told them to go back to their camp because this was our camp and
my dad was sick and needed his sleep, then there was a verbal fight
between my dad and somebody my dad pushed him and we went in our
camper and locked the door, they left back to a camp and retured with
a total of maybe 10 or 15 people and one girl was banging on the door
and i got a tomahawk and stood at the door and told her if she came
in my house i could hurt her if i wanted to. she tried to force
herself in, i kicked her and shut the door again and told them all to
leave again. then they smashed our back window and our two side
windows and said they were coming in and going to kill us, thats when
my dad loaded his gun we had for protection from mountain lions or
bears because we travel. we had it not just to "bring to rainbow", it
was a world war 2 mosin nagante 38 caliber extremely powerful rifle.
so my dad went outside and shot a round in the air since we were
threatened to be killed. 10 people jumped my dad and were fighting
over the gun i was hitting the guy wrestling with my dad in the back
with a tomahawk very hard, a man with a blond gaotee mustache and
ponytail, very skinny, got the gun from my dad and pointed it at his
heart, my dad put his hands up and said 'please dont kill me' so he
pointed it at his knee and fired it went in one leg out the other and
through the other leg, and he said with the most cold hearted voice i
ever heard, 'there aint no fucking guns in my woods motherfucker' and
they took the gun and while my dad was bleeding to death they were
laughing saying shanti-sina and i was screaming help no one was
coming finally the a campers left and i was still screaming when
finally a guy from not a fucking kitchen came thank god and drove my
dad to the emergency room. The gun, is a very very powerful gun. my
dads leg was just, well it looked like someting took a huge bite out
of it not just a bullet hole. also i have a one year old son whos
very close to his grandpa, i cant say just how angry i am especially
since the cops didnt hardly do shit and never found the guy. after we
left a camp smashed the rest of our windows and windshield and stole
all of our food my clothes my keyboard everything i had and destroyed
my home. now my dads in the hospital and wont walk for some months he
doesnt have any insurance but thankfully its a religious hospital and
they're going to help him. but i dont know what were going to do
after this. Rainbow needs to council about this whole a camp
bullshit, if we let them do this to us then rainbow cant go on as a
peaceful community, weve tried banishing them to the outside but they
still are violent people and not supposed to come in to other camps
especially drunk which they all were. all week before this i heard
about them beating up random people passing through one girl i met
had a black eye and said she didnt do anything but say hi. why the
hell are we still letting them be at rainbow? why are we afraid of
them and let them try and run things? we need to council anybody who
wants to come email me and ill try and organize something close to my
hometown in southern indiana it could be in a surrounding state
depending on the circumstances. lovin you guys dont beleive rumors
this is what happened. ill put pics in an album warning some show
blood.
6 comments:
I used to go to national rainbow gatherings, went to 12 between 1981 and 1996. i live in southern illinois, carbondale, and i heve never gone to the shawnee regional in the 8 years i lived here. it is too small and the alcoholics always dominate such assemblies, anyone who goes to these things is askng for trouble. life is hard and some of the road gypsies are down and out types, what do you expect from them? anyone who thinks otherwise is idealistic and living in illusion.
the group of individuals being referred to as 'a-camp' are actually all affiliated members of "front gate."
there were no members of a-camp attending this gathering, as i was there for the council following the incident, where this fact was reiterated for the group.
i think this is important information only because we don't want the wrong group of people to suffer consequences inflicted by an entirely seperate group.
hello, my name is Carl Baker. I am the man who was shot. I want to thank the many people who have posted their words. I have read all of them. It has been 4 1/2 months ago that this happened to me . I am in pretty bad shape and am crippled as a result of the bullet that went thru both of my legs. I have recently graduated from the wheelchair and the walker and I am able to stand up and walk some with the use of a cane. my doctors tell me that I will never have normal legs. especialy my left leg. the bullet went thru my left leg about 4 inches above the knee cap it shattered the distal aspect of my left femur bone and on the way thru it took with it lots of mussle that will never grow back and severed the tendens that make the leg work the exit wound was massive it then went thru the calf mussle of my right leg. I didn't even know i was shot in the right leg untill i got to the hospital in harrisburg. I was then transfered by helicoppter to barnes jewish hospital in ST.Lois. there I recieved the finest care and owe my life to the wonderfull Doctors and Nurses. I was there for 10 days and had three different surgeries I nearly lost my left leg however with metal implants and screws and skin graphs they put me back together as best they could.thank god for the morphine getting shot point blank with a high powered rifle can be very painfull and still is. I take prescription pain medication as well as specialy precribed stuff for nerve damage it is amassing how numbness can be so painfull.
I am sure there are lots of people that would like to hear from me why I had a rifle at a gathering. the answer is simple. me and my family decided to travel and we planned to be gone all winter and were planning on going as far south as the florida keys and as far west as wyoming. we took all of our possitions including my hunting rifle for the porpose of hunting if we got the opertunity. I also had fishing poles. I like to hunt and fish. that was the reason the rifle was kept in the camper. I don't see any problem with that.and that brings us to another question.
Why and how come it was brought out and brandished and how come i was ultimately shot with my own rifle...that is a question that deserves an answer and I want very much to tell all the rainbow family the details of what happened and I will do so. but not at this time as I am exhausted right now and it is late . I want to be rested and alert when I tell of the horrer that took place. in my next post you will read my story and how I saw it from both ends of the gun. please excuse me I need to rest now.
You don't have to explain further about what the gun was doing there. You were traveling further than that gathering and had a rifle in the rv. What should be explained is what the hell front gate is doing. That shit is bogus. If all those fools ran up on me I would pull a weapon too. I an sorry that happened. Tea time is safer.
The only asshole that might be there is Clearwater.
Yours truly,
Agro Dan
hi thank you hailey raught about clearing up names. bc im affiliated with one and the name gets used and abused alot. alot of original acamp is dead there is only very few survivals and we all have kids and are doing different things. but you get alot of fukd people saying they are and they arent.
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